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18 May 2006

Senate panel OKs gay marriage ban

MSNBC is reporting Senate panel OKs gay marriage ban.
A Senate committee approved a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage Thursday, after a shouting match that ended when one Democrat strode out and the Republican chairman bid him “good riddance.”
and there's this
Democrats complained that bringing up the amendment is a purely political move designed to appeal to the GOP’s conservative base in this year of midterm elections.
Looks like Tonya was right: more business as usual - smoke and mirrors and bombast.
("Ignore that man behind the curtain!")

  • On 5/18/2006 5:07 PM, Blogger Merilyn Joanne said…

    how do you feel about gay marriage?honestly i think its wrong.

  • On 5/18/2006 5:27 PM, Blogger Jami said…

    I think marriage should be between two people who love each other enough to make a committment to each other - period. It used to be illegal for people of different races to marry; not now. It used to be illegal for women to marry without permission from their father or the lord of the estate; not now. We should be enlightened enough to let people who want to be together, be together and not be so intrusive as to find out if their genitals are the same. You might want to read Denise's post and her paper here for more on this issue.

  • On 5/19/2006 11:55 AM, Anonymous Andy said…

    Don't they just behave like children, politicians? They promote the word 'responsibility' without living it - which is why we so often hear of their selfishness in the bedroom, buying boys for sex and in other ways cheating on wives, or behaving unethically by taking backhanders for votes. Your system is in a worse state than ours: you really can't tell much difference between the rats on-board your ship - all will bite you to save their own skins. x

  • On 5/19/2006 12:06 PM, Anonymous Andy said…

    merilyn, why do you think it's wrong? From religious grounds? If so, remember there are always two sides - at least - to any debate. I would also assume if you think gay marriage is wrong, you also think gay adoption is wrong.

    My own sense of what is wrong are prescriptive and prohibitive laws as well as personal judgements. For example if you were basing that statement of yours on the idea of drug-taking and drinking young men adopting, then I'd say absolutely. But you should remember there are as many shades of behaviour and lifestyle in the gay community as anywhere else.

    For example, my partner and I are adopting after almost eight years together in a monogamous relationship. We aren't moralists, we don't judge - we are simply doing what is right for us to date, and in future will incorporate our child into our field of care also. That said, being the individuals we are, we have no desire to get married. Yet. We may one day. Living in the UK, it's more than nice now to have that option available to us in the form of 'civil partnership' which extends all the benefits of marriage to us.

    Last time I checked, people were still heterosexual in the UK. Still having babies whether living together or married. Not much has changed... except for gay people like myself, of course. The world has not ended. Christ has not risen from the grave to wag a finger. People who want to still go to church. And so on.

    I guess the question is, what does marriage mean to you? Ultimately love, sure, but then there are heterosexuals who marry for convenience or in a Vegas chapel after a night of boozing - should we ban all marriages because of fools and manipulators? Of course not. Extending marriage reinforces the institution's value. It does not undermine it. More gay people want to marry now than straight people, and more gay relationships survive for decades and lifetimes than certain quarters would ever like to admit.

    Marriage is not only about love. It's about rights to benefits, recognition by hospitals, respecting last wishes when you die... Lots of things which vary from country to country. To support it for all is not to support everything anyone who marries does - I, for example, do not support men beating their wives or adultery. You don't have to be approving of gay sexuality to seek justice and fairness for all.

    To deny any of us anything which empowers, spreads love and sustains us in our daily lives is not only wrong but may well lead one day to someone knocking at your own door telling you you can't do this, can't do that, will be punished if you do... x

  • On 5/19/2006 8:22 PM, Blogger Tonya said…

    (Leviticus 20:10 If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.

    If you feel opposition due to the teachings of the bible do you think that is wrong too Merilyn? Should we kill all those people as we have been commanded?

    How I feel about gay marriage is this, the same way I feel about marriage period. No difference in marriage no matter who is being joined. The content of each person living includes a soul. That is the very essence of each of us. The body is just a container for that soul. What we see physically has nothing to do with who or what a person is. Marriage is the joining of two souls.

  • On 5/19/2006 8:24 PM, Blogger Tonya said…

    i'm linking to you. it will be too late to stop me when you see this so you'll just have to ask me to take it down if you don't like it and i will if you do ask.

  • On 5/20/2006 2:06 PM, Blogger Jami said…

    Well, OK then! Just to show you Tonya, I'm going to link to you, too! So there! :)


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